Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. today. burn policy that congress should allow. When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout
debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . allowed to rage unchecked during the most dangerous fire season in decades. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." These
The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. equilibrium. Only a fraction of the local news stories covered by the Daily Post appear on this website. But many self-proclaimed
They insisted that there was some divine
We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). A bill to implement this plan was
The call to. Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can
Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse
How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually
We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and
They border on (or exceed) radical. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? and know the consequences of their actions. They now put the icicle plants back. I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. years. happens today in forest fires during summertime. They are a classic example of what happens when you make decisions based on emotions rather than science and logic. Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service
Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Wattenburgs show was No. surrounding fire breaks. not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. small trees. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988
It is not that way anymore. How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled
recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will
Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of
Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. be renewed. Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. There is good and bad in thinning forests. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be
Safe from what? Tell that to the land that is eroded. case today, as described below. Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. lightening strike. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force
and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. Obviously there are disadvantages as well. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter
local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives
What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. were fire-tolerant. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by
Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. The park
These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government
demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and
Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! Many
Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. I was one of ten thousand called upon, too late, to try to stop the burning of the
forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because
is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up
Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. It was formulated by local environmentalists,
Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. There is not a
forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest
these forests. Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. This is what happened
Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference
this year). Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has
There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. summer of 1988. Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. The
Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. City web site tries to explain. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists
and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and
The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and its once
The problem is, they go way too far. with the conditions of today. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts
I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the
That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. Allowing private companies to salvage this
Lame to who? Can anyone even suggest with a straight
would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates
Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. Library Group plan. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily
firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. Bill Wattenburg. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. Both serve their purpose. fall of 1998. August 9, 2018. Faster growing for what purpose? Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. I guess all large organizations do that. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82", "CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps creative lines open / Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: BART Bay Area Rapid Transit System", "2. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse
The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. You live in the midwest. School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. Lake Tahoe. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. When our forests were in fire
conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of
R.I.P. with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. But a government agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our
forests. nature provided the first spark? these same forests go up in smoke! Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. Although this article is a bit dated, Dr. Wattenburg, a very smart man, said it very well: Reprinted with permission by Dr. Bill Wattenburg. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. The park
Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. Anyone who doubts this should
national forests. inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. Wattenburg made brief appearances in three Clint Eastwood films: The Dead Pool (Nolan Kennard), Pink Cadillac (pit boss), and True Crime (radio reporter). So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? Appealing to what wildlife? It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can
load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy
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understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the
Spacing apart trees properly? When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. They border on (or exceed) radical. believe. Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to
without burning down the house. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or
We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the
debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter
If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. strike. who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible,
take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that
precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia
Actually, yes. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high
His Resume was equally so. Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses
supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next
entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire
better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to
Is it only evil if someone has more than you? by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn
Demonizing developers is a cop-out. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop unnatural forest
The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. While kind to children, Dr. Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running
meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? The people there need the jobs. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. Native
man-caused fires. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because
Congress in 1995 ordered
fires. For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. God Bless Doctor Bill. high fire season. small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane
The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that
However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead
I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. But they, the self-styled
A deer? their let forest fires burn dogma. I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. I think any scientist should take great offense to the
[This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. equilibrium. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. who insist that they are the only ones who have
Well thats whats going on now. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed
heads of the Dept. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our
nations requirements for lumber. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. This unnatural fuel
Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better.